I have a 500M fiber connection with FIOS and the fastest on the wifi side of my iap207s is 140M. the wifi connection is 5G, AC, good up to 650M, but i can’t seem to get any better than 140. my wire connection to that iap is in the 500M range, but when it comes off that iap207, it’s slow. it wasn’t til after you mentioned checking for packet errors that I wondered if that might be my problem. The thing is, I only have the FIOS modem w/no firewall appliance to review any log. Do you have any ideas how I can troubleshoot my wifi speed?
so you shouldn’t be changing channels around. I don’t have experience in IAPs, but I deal with Aruba on a large scale at work with standard campus APs.
They adjust their channels and signal strength automatically based on what they hear around them and what their network tells them. The APs communicate among each other and do what they need to do so as not to blow each other out, and to manage that they’re on the best channels possible. This process should be pretty instantaneous, but if you’ve still got the Asus broadcasting so they can’t get a clean environment, you can cause issues there as well.
It’s insanely rare (like 3-4 times in my career) that I’ve had to manually assign channels to Aruba APs, and that was when I explicitly needed them to stay OFF a 2.4 channel in the concert hall.
“Tweaking the settings to match the Asus” isn’t going to help a whole ton because Asus doesn’t speak the same “language” as Aruba does. You may also need to check your channel width settings (20/40MHz etc) on your setup. These are enterprise-class devices. It’s not “flip a switch, set it and forget it” like a single Asus all in one router. If you start pushing the buttons and turning the knobs, you can knock the whole thing ass over teakettle because you’re not taking into account the details of an enterprise device.
Or get Ubi, and ignore everything, literally; they’re more like consumer home routers than they are enterprise devices, and you have to set their channels and strength manually to have a decent setup. Had to do it myself at my church. If I had my druthers now, I’d buy Aruba InstantOn.
@darcseed, thank you for the reply. I understand everything that you are saying, However, if you search the Internet, you will find tons and tons of people having issues with this particular model. Just because they are enterprise doesn’t excuse their shortfall. Also, as you scroll through this thread, you can not find anyone disputing these issues. I got into these because they were a low cost solution. As I mentioned in my previous threads, I am not knocking the product, they are just not for me. I have already sold my 3 IAP-207 and have moved on to Ruckus AP’s. Ruckus AP’s are enterprise as well. Honestly, Ruckus is the best wireless investment I ever made. I am very happy with them…
Sure, I see people ‘having issues’ with them. I’ve helped out upthread several times.
They’re also used and several generations old (We’re deploying 500 series APs now by default), and the 207’s are 2x2, 867Mbps at 80MHz channel width. For reference, we don’t ever run 80MHz channel width at work; in a dense deployment you’re looking at massive interference. For a home, you could run 80MHz channels. The only question there is “do all of your devices support 80MHz channel width?”
After that it’s “Are all of my devices 2x2?” (most are, usually; the mini-USB’s are almost always only 1x1) and if they’re 2x2, and your AP is 2x2, you should get 2-400Mbps with little issue. Also enabling DFS channels can help immensely if you’re not near a radar station of some type (airport, whatever).
I’ve mentioned this upthread as well but my on-network speed test on 3x3 AC with a bigboi Nighthawk (I do this for a living, I don’t want to do it at home) is about 240Mbps.
Ruckus is fine. They’re a step up from Ubi, but on the enterprise scale at least a notch or two below Meraki, with Aruba and Cisco a notch above that. They do very well for deployments that need more than Ubi, but don’t have the budget for Meraki. They’ve also been bought/resold a few times so it makes people in my line of work very twitchy about buying their product for a long term deployment. For home, I don’t see a real problem there.
@darcseed, Thank you so much buddy for the reply. I do appreciate hearing a different perspective from someone who actually does this for a living. I agree with most of your points. Like I said, I was looking for a low cost solution when I purchased my (3) Aruba IAP-207. I am sure with a different model I would have had a different experience. Most people online say to choose the Models 315 and up. For now, I am happy with Ruckus. If in the future on this forum, someone finds a deal for the Aruba 315 and up, I will definitely jump onboard again. I am a tech enthusiast. Thanks again for your replies…
Aruba’s website is somewhat confusing… I couldn’t find this anywhere else on there but I found the statement in a data sheet wrt management control options for Aruba InstantOn AP’s … is the local control option that’s described really limited then?
Also, Despite a few hours of looking around and reading a lot about the Aruba for the 300 series to 500 series options, I still cannot figure out what happens if Internet connectivity is lost for a couple hours up to a week or so, if has been managing one’s access point and layer 2 switches etc., through their cloud-based Aruba Central…
Do you happen to know about either or both of these questions i’m trying to figure out answers to?
“ SIMPLE WI-FI MANAGEMENT WITH CHOICES
To meet the need of a wide range of enterprise architectures, Aruba Instant provides flexible management options.
Local management
The built-in GUI provides access to live monitoring and traffic visibility, while network configuration provides full customization of SSIDs, roles, guest access, and more. For extended historical reporting, Aruba Central can be added.
Aruba Central
Aruba Central, is a cloud-based AI-powered operations, analytics, and security platform for APs deployed in one or multiple locations. Centralized configuration and monitoring, and advanced troubleshooting and API integration are also provided. Aruba Central also supports Aruba switches and SD-WAN gateways, and offers access to AI-powered analytics for fast troubleshooting.
Aruba AirWave
Aruba AirWave, an on-premises platform, provides IT with the ability to manage controller-based APs and those running in Instant Mode. Aruba AirWave is also useful for multi-vendor environments where legacy wired and wireless infrastructure still requires attention, but does not warrant a separate tool.”
https://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/tg/TB_Aruba-Instant-Mode.pdf
UPDATE
It looks like Aruba’s InstantOn is for a whole other line of AP’s (and switches) (e.g. AP 12 ) and not for AP 300-500’s???
Man their website is worse than AWS offerings on lacking a ‘single pane of glass’ on their own differences inproduct lines…every link is an rabbit hole.
I figured this out by looking at a third-party vendor website before finding this official one by googling:
Confused here
With IAP models, it doesn’t matter if you have internet access or not. Same for the cloud models, really - you won’t be able to change anything, but they will still work.
@darcseed mentioned this above wrt the IAP 200’s:
They’re also used and several generations old (We’re deploying 500 series APs now by default), and the 207’s are 2x2, 867Mbps at 80MHz channel width. For reference, we don’t ever run 80MHz channel width at work; in a dense deployment you’re looking at massive interference. For a home, you could run 80MHz channels. The only question there is “do all of your devices support 80MHz channel width?”
I interpreted this to mean that the 80 MHz width channels are fixed/ cannot be reduced (or the AP only performs well as designed if running them with 80 MHz width channels)…
Now I’m wondering if my interpretation is off-base…
So the cloud models on loss of Internet connection will e.g. continue to auto select channel b/c it uses its own hardware driving that decision making just as the IAP’s do?
(Instead of a ml model ingesting telemetry and making the decision in the cloud, and sending it back to the unit acting as controller… I have to ask because there’s been such a long deemphasis on local processing in favor of cloud and all the assumptions that entails)
Thanks!
Cloud features will not work if there is no internet connection, full stop.
sorry, didn’t notice this. I see it’s been a month.
No, you can adjust their channel width. 20/40/80. Channel width tend to have an impact on throughput. You can probably safely run 80 at home, as long as you don’t have people densely packed around you running at 80MHz as well.
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Does https://instant.arubanetworks.com work for anyone else when trying to get into the web ui? I’ve tried different browsers and can’t get in. Have also tried the ip address and port and it’s a no go.
This is not an initial setup…just wanted to get in and tinker a bit and can’t remember how I was getting in before.
Looks like an https issue. I got to the login page using Firefox. The password I had for it won’t let me in so I must have changed it and don’t remember. Oh well…this thing is a pain. Edit 2: I got in…now it won’t take my logins to get an update to 8.8. HP SUCKS SO BAD.
it does not work. The easiest way is to type in the ip address of the Aruba AP
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Printable ceiling mount that the factory drop ceiling mount will clip to.
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has anyone messed around with the Bluetooth beaconing on these?
The 207 model doesn’t have Bluetooth. Are you referring too the 305 with its “iot” radios?
sorry ill clarify i was referring to the RTLS and BLE beaconing
I am not a network expert by any means and have purchased 2 of the IAP-207 for use in my coworker’s home. With COX ISP w/ gigabit, the download was at max 137 mbps right next to the AP on wireless ac. I was not really expecting this as the COX router/modem spat out over 500 mpbs on wireless ac. Ended up giving away the IAP-207 units as they’re no longer competitive with even the trashy ISP-provided equipment.
Was this not expected bechavior?
Without knowing how you configured the access points, and noting that you gave them away… Okay. They’ll do better than that, and standing right next to one is actually counterproductive for throughput. The toroidal pattern on the AP’s antennas creates a smaller dead zone directly nearby. Back off 4-6 feet (or, logically speaking, a ceiling height away) and you should see better throughput.